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   Ireland
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Posted on: 12:11 pm, September 26, 2008

I visit Killarney regularly to visit family and friends as I am originaly from the area.

It occured to me recently that visitors must find the horse manure on the roads and in the national park off-putting even though I haven't really heard many complaints or seen any comments on TA.

I fully appreciate the value of the carriages to the Killarney experience and it is one of my abiding memories of my youth taking a trip on one.

However it does seem to me about time that this situation changed.

I am curious as to the views of TA members both regular and first time visitors to Killarney.

I am also curious as to how this situation might have been solved else where so recommendations might be made to the horse men or authorities or whomever is appropriate.

P.S. before any one is put off Killarney by this post, I love it and recommend everyone to visit it and if the situation with the horses never changes it will not put me off.

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   Bunratty, Ireland
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ferdia35
Posted on: 12:27 pm, September 26, 2008

NYC Sanitation Department has to clean their horsie's mess in Central Park- and there's an interesting solution in CA.

Have a look at the link :)

couleenews.com/articles/…horsepoo.txt

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   Newport, Ireland
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bertie2
Posted on: 12:30 pm, September 26, 2008

Its really a simply solution but the inbreds with the jaunting cars will never do it because simply it costs money.

Just put a box/bag at the front of the carraige and behind the horses posterior(couldnt think of a better word) and all the manure gets collected.

Its a way of life for people in Killarney but the guys are a law unto themselves.

They actually tried to stop me driving on the gap of dunloe. He said it was only wide enough for him. I told him to swiftly move as it was a public road. I had an appointment furthr down the road.

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cormac55
Posted on: 12:51 pm, September 26, 2008

I never made a big deal (yes it's offensive) I guess if you go where horses go :) then look out, or down really! Bertie's suggestion seems fairly easy and inexpensive.

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   Dallas
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Posted on: 7:55 pm, September 26, 2008

DASH4 . . .You are so lucky to be from such a beautiful town! I was in Killarney a couple of weeks ago and enjoyed a ride on the jaunting carts...I guess I was so entralled with the whole experience, I didn't even notice there was a "poop problem! Didn't even think about it!

And to those who are thinking about going to Killarney...please go see this wonderful town! I've been to Ireland twice, and Killarney is one of my favorite Irish towns. The next time I go, I will definitely stop by!

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tonyirish
Posted on: 1:34 pm, September 28, 2008

I agree that it can be off putting especially on a humid day when the smell seems to linger all along the roads in the National Park and the idea of a poop catcher behind the horses is employed in many places around the world. The biggest disadvantage of which is that the poop smell stays with you for the journey whereas the traditional method keeps the smell away from the patrons.

And a point of information about the jarveys in the Gap versus those in the National Park. Those that frequent the Park are licensed by the OPW (State), are regulated and such an ordinance could be added to to their regulations. Those that operate in the Gap are managed by themselves and pretty much have a closed shop on who gets to operate there. There are talks of a land swap that would bring the Gap within the boundaries of the National Park and then presumably regulations would follow - but not without a fight I'm sure.

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bertie2
Posted on: 1:39 pm, September 28, 2008

At least its only Killarney town that has the Issue.

Parts of Egypt smell permanently of manure and there is air pollution is the fact that the "essense" of manure has become airbourne so people are actually breathing it in.

I also think Brussels smells..................different. I cannot place the smell buts its a damp smell.

Tell me where you live and I will give you my opinionated view on it..............LOL

Only Joking!

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Posted on: 2:33 pm, September 28, 2008

The smell of horse manure in Killarney did not put my husband or I off in the least. We have horses ourselves but clean our stalls and pens twice a day of manure. I don't know what the current arrangements are between the town of Killarney and the drivers regarding manure removal. A suggestion might be to have manure collected and removed at least twice a day (noon and at the end of the day) and stored outside of the town where it can be composted. Makes fabulous fertilizer and topsoil after a few years. We store ours in different piles just off of our hayfields in the trees to age and eventually when it turns to topsoil we have people calling all the time wanted to buy truck loads of it for lawns, gardens, etc. We don't live in a perfect world and the smell of horses and manure is just a part of enjoying a jaunting car ride or horseback riding. Just my two cents worth!

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bertie2
Posted on: 3:42 pm, September 28, 2008

Thank you Cananda.

The problem is that they ride on public roads so that there is no chance of collection. It in fact gets collected on the tyres and underside of people vehicles and slowly but surely deposited around the surrounding areas.

It does not bother me as much but I just hate having to avoid the waste on the roads.

They stand around outside the International hotel with horse waste on the roads in front of them. Up to ten guys(sometimes more) at a time waiting for tourists. They have the time but no the inclination to clear up their own mess.

If your dog fouls to ground and you do not pick it up you get a €180 on the fine spot. Do they, NO!

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Posted on: 12:43 pm, October 29, 2008

I used to go to Killarney every year as a child as my parents were from there. I smile now everytime I smell horses poo because it takes me back there. Sounds silly but memories are nice. Dont get rid of the horse manure!!

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